there are no political points to be gained from getting the u.s. at the cliff, from going to default as we saw a year and a half ago. also markets are responding to the fact that and how that could be cut or not but can we see political cohesion? if the president can't move forward on this issue, the rest of his agenda is going to become more difficult. >> and because of the way this package of cuts and tax increases is build that hits on january 1st, they can be negotiated at the same time, which is to say republicans have straits in what the so they may end up making decisions, that i will live with what the president wants on taxation so i can get what i want on defense cuts. >> that's right. you heard, for instance, bill crystal, essentially tell republicans to say, listen, that they should accept this deal from obama, the higher tax rates on the rich of course that was something that was backed up by 60% to 70% of people who voted, some of whom were republican said yes, let's take that deal. so i think you're right. they're looking at all of t